Gyroscope bed level error

Fellow laser users:

First, I want to thank Lightburn for providing us with this communications avenue to other laser users.

I’ve owned my Atomstack A70 Max for almost a year now, and it’s performance has been exemplary. I find that most of the work I do is done with the 35W setting, but the 70W setting is great to have when I need it. If I had it to do over, I would buy it again in a heartbeat. All that said, I wanted to provide some observational information for other Laser users having a bed level sensor. When I initially set up my laser, I affixed the external control screen (using its magnet base) to the back of the control panel metal enclosure. I’ve never actually used the external control as I have a dedicated Windows computer running Lightburn.

After using my laser for about three months, I experienced a controller failure, and Atomstack responded by sending me a replacement. After an easy installation of the replacement parts, all appeared to be working well.

Up until about a month ago, any other problems I experienced were corrected with some minor adjustments - nothing major occurred until recently. While using my laser, I accidentally bumped the external screen a little, so I readjusted it, reaffixing it to its usual mounting location.

After that adjustment (without even realizing there may have been a connection), I started receiving “bed not level” notifications, which would stop my laser, with a notice to re-level the bed and restart the job. This was a little disconcerting as my laser bed has been rather flat (within less than a half a degree of level using a rather sensitive mechanical indicator) since its installation.

After each notice, I would power down everything - wait for 15 or so minutes for my computer and laser to have had time to clear any memory buffers, I would then restart operation. Everything would work fine again - for 30 minutes or so - and then the “out of level” error would show up again. During the setup of my laser, I had mechanically secured its table to a much larger laser table to ensure stability during a job run. As for movement during a job, all I could feel was just the slightest movement of the table - more like a small vibration than a discernable movement - nothing that was concerning or was causing an error with cutting accuracy.

After dealing with this for several days, I started thinking back about what could I have possibly done “physically” to the laser bed that could be causing the problem - but nothing came to mind - except for moving the magnet mounted external control.

After doing some internet research, I discovered that my A70 was using a “solid state” gyroscope for movement detection - that was mounted on the control board - and that there were NO adjustments that I could make to recalibrate it. I ALSO discovered that these types of gyroscopes can be sensitive to a magnetic field.

Since I had never used the external interface, I decided to disconnect it (while the laser was powered down), and move it several feet away. Since that time, I have not experience ANY bed level related problems. I have been running numerous jobs that run from a few minutes to over an hour - and everything seems very stable now.

I have reported my issues (and my problem solution) to Atomstack, and await their response - which I will provide here when I receive it.

If you have experienced similar issues, I would appreciate your providing your experiences - even with other laser brands.

Even though its control panel is encased in a metal enclosure, it seems quite possible that somehow the magnetic field of my external control panel found a weak point in the shielding.

Thank you for your time,

Charlie

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Thanks for sharing your experiences with us, it’s very interesting, even though I have a different machine

Couldn’t you just turn off the Tilt Detection with the console screen. I had a problem with the console where it was not working correctly. The touch screen would not work when i touched it and the flame detection and tilt detection seemed to be turning on and off by themselves. Also the Home and Restart settings were changing by themselves. I opened the case up and removed the console from the case and everything worked fine. When it was put back in the case i had issues. I found the issue was with the mounting screws holding the console into the case. If they were too tight it would press the sides of the touch screen onto the case and cause issues. The solution was when mounting the touch screen into the case just back off the mounting screws a little to just barely hold the screen into the case. This seemed to fix the issue

After i got everything working correctly I turned off the Flame Detection, Tilt Detection, Resume and Home on Start, and just disconnected the touch screen console as i don’t really need it

My laser is still under warranty, so I don’t want to make any changes which would void my warranty. Thanks for the suggestions though.

My machine was under warranty also. I contacted Atomstack and this was their suggestion to open the touch console and check the board. So opening this should not void the warranty. There is no seal or anything on it so there is no way they would know you opened it.

It’s commendable to take the initiative to publish a solution you’ve found on your own.
It won’t be the case for everyone, but since it’s a reputable brand, it’s likely you’ll find several identical machines that might also malfunction.

That’s not my case. I bought a cheap Chinese machine to learn and I’ve been improving it.

Thank you for sharing it!

Good job on the diagnostics!

This is all speculation based on undisclosed facts: That metal enclosure has to be steel if the remote sticks to it in various places. The remote magnet made the enclosure a magnet, so to speak. It has openings than can distort the field intensity in unknown ways.