Linux support to end after v1.7

Thank you @richfaraone - your kind words are greatly appreciated :slight_smile:

One thing Iā€™d like to note for anyone reading your message and thinking to save themselves an copy of the LB installer is that we do still provide installers for every version all the way back to v0.6 on our download site:
https://release.lightburnsoftware.com/LightBurn/Release/

For the keen eyed, yes, this is different than the old GitHub link we usually post for old releases. That wonā€™t be going away (no point of taking it down) but all releases are moving over to this new site. So when I created that release site I went ahead and copied over all the old versions for the sake of completeness.

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@adammhaile , will the final and last official version of LightBurn (1.7) for Linux Ubuntu be released with a working camera functionality?, ie. are you still working on the case or is it already stopped?

Yes. Cameras will still work for 1.7

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ā€¦Just to avoid misunderstanding, camera does not work in the current version for Linux Ubuntu, see my entry in the beta section which is from about 15 days agoā€¦
The question was, will it be fixed?

This sucks. The only reason for using lightburn was the Linux support.
I WILL NOT BE PURCHASING A LICENCE

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Yes, we plan to fix that.

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I believe this is a really good suggestion that could turn into a win-win situation for everyone involved. Another suggestion from my side would be to just support the core features on Linux and open the interfaces for the missing functionality thatā€™s too time consuming for you to develop. This way you can keep your core closed but the community has an option to develop the missing stuff or even improvements.

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I love where yā€™allā€™s head is at, but to be honest that would be harder than just continuing with Linux support. Iā€™m a huge proponent of open source, Iā€™ve developed quite a bit in the open source world, and many of us on the development team have. The workload required to do that for LightBurn, communicate with the community and make sure thereā€™s actually a way to use those integrations, all while ensuring that proprietary things stay secret is far more work than just continuing Linux support in the first place.

At the end of the day, itā€™s just not as simple as letting the open source community take over the parts we donā€™t have the time or bandwidth to do. If it was, please believe us that we would have taken that route.

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With all respect, but the ā€œrealā€ reason is that Lightburn cannot/will not release their code to others and that they do not continue with Linux is a purely financial decision at the end.
It is understandable and in the spirit of the time.

Correct and the way I see it is that they have a very aggressive update and release schedule and in order to keep up that pace they either have to add even more developers or drop support for something. Theyā€™ve chosen to continue the fast pace of updates/releases and not grow the team and to gain dev time/resources dropping Linux support.

I mentioned before that their update and release schedule is amazing and quite unusual from my experience. The product is quite mature and usable with multiple devices, rotary, library and material support, camera and a ton of graphics editing features just to name a few. But if profitability is elusive then keeping up the pace might be requiredā€¦ Otherwise, itā€™d be as you mentioned about boosting financials by dropping whatā€™s not funding the platform effort in sales numbers.

Linux desktop use is still only around 5% worldwide and of those with lasers(CO2 or diode) the number is well below 1% and of those who know of LightBurn itā€™s rather small list. So until people just get sick of things like this CrowdStike failed update BSoDā€™ing Windows and cause Linux desktop use to grow significantly, weā€™ll have to rely on open source. Donating to your favorite project helps too.

As one of those 1 percenters, who also works in the software industry, I understand the realities of having to support a platform with a relatively small user base, but Iā€™m still very dissappointed to hear this. Iā€™d hate to have to keep a Windows or Mac around for one app, albeit one that I use all the time.

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This is very sad news. Linux support was the main thing that made my buy the license in the first place. As a bonus for me it turned out that LightBurn is actually one of the very best (if not the best) in the market.

I do sympathize though. Even Linus Torvalds himself has said itā€™s a major pain to maintain desktop apps for Linux (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc).

Personally I will just continue to use LB with whatever the last update will be. But I think this would be the perfect case for kicking off the change that is required to make this work better for everyone. It just seems silly that weā€™ve ended up in a situation where it commercially doesnā€™t make sense to support Linux because of XYZā€¦

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Raspberry Pi running Win10 isnā€™t expensive? As for security updates I donā€™t consider that a problem nor do may thousands of commercial and business users who wont/canā€™t change to Win11. Myriad of AV systems out thereā€¦

Iā€™m a new Lightburn user - just bought my license last week - with the intent to use it on Linux because Windows updates are a headache, and their constant version updates are a problem with my old computer - not everyone can afford the latest hardware that will run the latest version of Windows. I agree, it would be GREAT if Lightburn could receive support on running it on Wine. It would also be GREAT if there could be a WINE TOPIC be created where us LINUX users could congregate. I confess, there may already be one of those and I just havenā€™t found it since this is my FIRST time using this Software Forum.

Donā€™t mean to come off as being negative - I DO appreciate and understand the workload involved in creating Lightburn - just hoping WINE support here cold help hold on to the 1% of us who enjoy not having to deal with Microsoft.

Charlie

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I donā€™t want to take sides, but I have an Asus laptop from 2008 that I upgraded to Windows 10 without any tricks and it works fine with Lightburn.

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Iā€™m very sad about this, too.

But as the author of (non commercial) Linux & cross platform software I understand. Linux is a wonderful development and experimentation environment. Its freedom to experiment and evolve make it a glorious playground many of us really donā€™t ever want to leave. But its freedoms donā€™t always lead to better finished products for the masses. My shop has many Linux instances, but only one Windows instance (licensed) running in a ProxMox VM. I may have to dedicate another box to Windows just for Lightburn.

Life is hard, sometimes.

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Having just tried that, the installation runs afoul of the copy protection / registration / licensing software, due to some innocently named Windows service being disabled / not available. Feeding my license key into it validates that session, but the next time around LightBurn is back to being a trial install.

There is an official tweak allowing VMs, but whether that would work for WINE installations I have no idea.

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and here I was all excited that the install of Lightburn worked with wine on a ArchLinux installationā€¦ Oh well, itā€™d be nice if this worked and might solve all the complaining.

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Whole my world runing under linux and i was so joyfull to use everyday LightBurn for all my laser machines. This is a devasting new ! This is breaking all my workflow ā€¦

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For those requiring Ruida control on Linux currently LightBurn is the only option.
( thankyou Ed Nisley for pointing that out )

Meerk40t does provide Ruida-Emulation (Middleman between Lightburn and K40) but not from Meerk40t directly to the Ruida.