Monport onyx ($2k) vs xtool p2 (lightly used for $3k)

Might want to read this if you haven’t found it in your search of the site.

Although a dsp controller is generally more expensive, they are much better for laser control.

If you limit it to desktops, what’s available is pretty limited.

You need a liquid coolant with dc excited tubes, you have to have plumbing and the cooling equipment. This puts practical limits on the size a desktop can be.

A common item is the power output. The power output of a co2 system is dependent on it’s length.

A 50W tube needs to be a meter long, 55W even longer. Since all of these cases are not more than a meter in width. I doubt the output values they claim.

My OMTech China Blue 50W was a bit over 40W when measured and only 880mm in length. OMTech isn’t stupid, they knew this when they built it or had it built also when they wrote the advertisement…

40W doesn’t sound as good as 50W… I guess…


Unless you cough up about 10 times the money, it will be a Chinese machine. Most technical service requires a 24 hour turnaround time. It’s the middle of the night over there for most of us.


I haven’t seen a thunder laser desktop… but you always have to add the chiller to it’s foot print unless it’s a desktop.

With a desktop, the parts are not standard, much worse than the rest of them… the optics and coolant systems seem to be rater custom.

How easy a clean/alignment is done on a desktop by the user, I have no idea. I’m sure someone can advise us.

The OMTech Polar can be diy fitted with a console, which I couldn’t live without. Also allows the use of user origin and change it’s ip.

If you watch a few of these videos, you can get a better idea of what may become an issue for you.

The P2, Onyx, Gweike Cloud, Polar and Glowforge are desktops that are relatively close…

I put in Glowforge, but it’s not really a consideration to me. Expensive, requires an internet connection and it totally proprietary, both hard/software wise.

This video compares Polar to Gweike

These point out annoyances about the product… sometimes a good to know. There were some odd things that surprised me.


@bionicback321 link is to an Ebay OMTech… I’ve seen lots of griping about this type of purchase… They try to go back to OMTech for warranty and/or service where they are directed back to the original ebay site. You can get good deals, but you may not be getting what you think for warranty and/or service.

Cloud Ray states


Notification

1.We only offer after-sale tech support for customers who order directly from www.cloudraylaser.com.
2. We are not responsible for orders from Cloudray store on shopping platforms (Amazon, eBay, AliExpress) or offline dealers as we don’t have your order information in our system. Please contact the related store or salesman directly to get support.
3. Any Businesss Cooperation consult, please directly contact us at cooperation@cloudray.com.


Likewise OMTech statement


LIMITED WARRANTY CONDITIONS

We warrant that during the specific warranty period set forth below, the respective OMTech product purchased directly from OMTechLaser.com will be free from defects in materials and workmanship. No other warranty, express or implied, is given with respect to the OMTech products purchased. OMTech’s responsibility for defective OMTech products is limited to repair or replacement, as described below, in this Limited Warranty. This limited warranty does not apply to OMTech-branded products purchased from third-party websites such as Amazon or eBay.


You can find these at reduced price, but you have to go back to the Amazon people to deal with issues or warranty.

OMTech has a different warranty for lasers 70W or greater of 1 year for tube and lps… if it’s a smaller laser these are only warranted for 6 months.

Always use a credit card, cheap insurance.

Good luck

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