Optimise Order By Group - How do you change the order of the groups?

I want to cut in groups, but I need the groups to be cut in the order I specify.
There is a particular group (which cuts the whole sheet into sections) which I need to cut last.
How do I set this up?

Shape properties doesn’t do it. And the last group only contains cuts in the last layer, that doesn’t do it either.

EDIT: Added picture of optimise settings I am talking about

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Feel free to share your project file so we can see what you are doing.

It is hard to offer specific advice without seeing your actual layout, but start here:

I’ve added a picture - it is the optimise settings I am asking about.

I already posted the guide to use optimizations, please post your project file so we can take a look.

Sorry, can’t post the file - it contains private information.

So I have 8 groups in the file, they are being cut by group.

Thanks for the link, I’ve read this, the documentation does not contain the information that I need.

I need to set the order in which the groups are cut.

Specifically I want one group to cut last.

How do I do this?

assign the shapes you want to cut last to a new layer and place that to the bottom of your cut list

Sample.lbrn2 (11.2 KB)

Here is a sample. As it stands it cuts in order groups 2,1 then 3.

How do I make this cut 1,2 and 3?

It is not about shapes, but about groups.

Sample.lbrn2 (12.6 KB)

This sample maybe explains it better. It cuts the number and rectangle of 2 first. I want to order the groups 1,2,3.

Supposing I want to cut in order 3,1,2?

There is a Order by Group option - how do I order the groups?

Just use three layers arrange them in that order.

But if the numbers are filled and the boxes cut that doesn’t work.

Yes, it does. You just need to add a fill layer.

Layers are your order of operations. Just remember to set “order by layer” in the optimization settings.

Optimizations are exactly that. They "optimize further as far as direction and group etc.

You are trying to find me a work round. The actual job is much more complex and I have very specific reasons for wanting to order by groups.

All I am asking is how do I change the order of groups if I choose Order by Group?

This was the question you asked.

If you order by group I am not sure you can select the order as 3,1,2 only top to bottom or left to right etc.

Thank you.

In that case, can I put in a software update request so that groups are cut front to back according to their Z position. Then users could use PgUp, PgDown to get the groups in the order they want to cut.

Strictly speaking as it stands “Order by Group” is not “ordering” - it’s only grouping.

There may be a combination or cut by layer and order by group that can get you what you need. Without seeing your project I am only guessing. I hope you can use the tools and find a combination that works for you

Like I said, these are only optimizations. The best way to do what you want is likely by using layers.


top of page, see the feature suggestions

Try using Order by Priority as your top optimization.

Starting from 0, you can assign a Cut Order Priority to each group of objects in the Shape Properties Window. In other words — objects with a 0 priority will be cut/engraved first, objects with a 1 priority will be cut/engraved second and so on.

If you only care about making sure the particular group that cuts the whole sheet into sections is cut last, you can just set its priority to 1, and leave everything else set to the default of 0. Otherwise, you can sort everything starting from 0 and continuing to the last group you want cut, and they’ll all be cut/engraved in that exact order.


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Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for and solves my problem.

I had tried this, but left “Order by Group” as the top of the list (assumed the priority would then be applied to the groups).

I have raised a feature request as I still think Order by Group is not correct, it is not ordering, only grouping.