9/21 UPDATED RANT - Imported Chinese laser, WAIT! or it will co$t YOU BIG

Damn! Seems like quite a lot.

I bought my Chinese laser from a German depot. This way I didn’t have to pay for additional import fees (since it shipped from one place in Europe to another)
Saved me a ton. Also when there was a problem… it was easier to get a refund.

My advice would be when buying a chinese laser:

  • Buy from a local depot to avoid addional import fees.
  • Preferably through ebay and pay with paypal (because you have buyers protection and those Chinese DO seem to scared of that.

Btw @Sasquatch what is the benefit of a dual head laser machine over a single head machine?

@sensor One head is a cutting head 150w and the second is an 80w engraving head. The machine can achieve engraing and cutting at same time or separately.

With two laser heads it increases production capacity and efficiency,the processing speed is doubled.

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Interesting!
Thanks for the clarification :slight_smile:

@Sasquatch Do the heads run on independent gantries? most dual lasers I have seen are on a single gantry and linked to each other, thus only able to duplicate the process with a set standoff from each other. If they are truly capable of independent motion then that is pretty awesome!

in this case you need a controller with room for a light control, otherwise chaotic states is to be expected :wink:

Nope. We did see the cutting shoe leather independent gantries model and talked ourselves out of the shoe business…

We went with the cutting/engraving 150/80 watt big 1500 x 1100 bed model one

Here is a rough photo of the head from the manufacturer during the building phase.
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We want to create large art pieces and projects. We are still abele to create lots of small pieces fast as a result of the large bed but felt that the versatility of a powerful cutter and an engraving head would be of greater use. To us without having to sacrifice the bed size.

Downsizing the bed size would be needed if we would have had the heads run on independent gantries. Think of each head responsible for approx 50% of the overall bed.

With a little bit of luck we should get our big green machine within the next 10 days after almost 1/2 of year of research and waiting.

Cheers

Sasquatch

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I pay with PayPal too without any problem.Anyway thanks for the info

That sounds weird… we have a 2-head, 2-tube flatbed laser, 180w & 100w, custom made ex China a few years ago. 1300 x 2500 mm bed. Motorised Z axis.

Processing speed doubled? No I wouldn’t say so, unless you moved the heads half the bed apart, and calibrated the higher tube so you could cut twice the items with the one gantry movement… good in theory, but its more useful to leave the heads side-by-side, and have the whole bed available for either head to use.
Engraving and cutting at the same time? Not at all.

Increased production capacity and efficiency- yes. But for practical purposes, not double
Get another laser, or two more, for real improvements in capacity & efficiency!
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@Stewey what sounds weird ? Your posts just basically repeats what I already stated
Here:

Cheers

Sas

Your post about the shoe systems didn’t come up when I looked. But you won’t get double the productivity…
As well as the big flatbed, we also have a 130w Goldenlaser 700x1300. They are a solid, quality unit- miles ahead of the ebay specials and the middle to bottom of the range offerings. The tube in it is a Reci w2, new in 2012, and still performing as new, at 100% power setting, 8 years old. The machine cost a very pretty penny when new, but back in those days, ‘quality’ was the only option.
My only gripe is their softdog dongle and Golden software.
I have to do the designs in Corel Draw, and use the E-cut plug-in DXF export, then import the DXF into the Golden software. Corel’s native dxf export is too buggy, and the Golden software did not like importing Ai files, even version 3.

One day I’ll fit a Ruida controller- and I have it on hand to do- but it works ok once you accept the Golden software quirks. I could not get it to work with Lightburn, sadly.

Have fun with yours!

PS the beauty of the Goldenlasers, is they are already tuned and set right. You pay for the productivity right from delivery- and no fears about misaligned scans and cuts etc that plagues the cheaper machine end of the scale.

Most of the shoe systems have a conveyer like bed when two independent heads are used material is inserted on one side and collected on the other end.

Two heads on independent gantries can be more productive on two smaller parallel beds because one can cut at a certain power while the second can engrave on another power concurrently. Theoretically twice as fast.Like using two cookie cutters at once.

Here is a video

Sorry to hear your machine is not working with LightBurn.It truly is an amazing Versatel solution to so many machines that would be so much less with other programs.

Cheers

Sasquatch

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UPDATE April 22

The extra fees we had to pay were far worse then we had anticipated

This Corona Virus Quarantine plus Trump’s war on China cost us $3588.75

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OMG

I truly hope two things

  1. You are joking
  2. *********** (on Rick’s request;))

Damn that hurts…

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First and only, no politics!

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Your wish is my command! (in this instance)

Nope that is the invoice that needs to be paid in full so that we can bail out our laser machine.

Sasquatch

I feel your pain. this is how things works around here and not related to the corona pandemic. we pay high fee on imported stuff from China. not small stuff - cheap ebay stuff are no issue. it’s these big heavy crates and exotic machines that are the worst.

We paid over $1000 for them to X-ray the big container, open up our laser crate and storage fees while we waited for the detailed hand inspection.

:rage:

Are these fees in addition to the $980 you posted previously, or is that $980 part of one of the big items on this newest list such as terminal handling?

We forecasted min $980 based on the first bill now we received the updated final bill with all the miscellaneous handling fees … yup the xtra fees would be terminal handling.

What chaps my hide is that they found nothing wrong with our import . They charge it because they can.