Add On to Monport 130w

Well I decided to re-install the Laser tubes Red dot attachment again after the first try that failed due to extreme low power reduction…
Edit: This is a Yhongli Red Dot specifically made for the Yhongli 80-150w tubes, screws directly on to the tube end.


When I first installed it I did a bench mark power test with two power meters HLP-200 and the Mahoney 200 watt version.


Ed Nisley did a great write up on the HLP-200
https://softsolder.com/2024/12/25/hlp-200b-laser-power-meter-first-measurements/

I found an almost 15w drop in power, so when I found time to investigate, I tore apart the Red dot unit and took a good look at the lens installed… It was in, “not so good shape”,
scratched around the edges a bit an just did not have a consistent coating, looked patchy… So I found a replacement at American Photonics and ordered one to give it a try.
The specs on their beam combiner lens was 99.8% transmission…I’ve spoke with the folks at APC a number of times and bought custom 3" lens and mirrors, and all of the products were super quality, so I figured the Beam combiner lens would also be the same…
After I recieved it and installed it in the Red dot unit, it was titme to do a power test…
I had my bench mark test, Fixed positon on the bed , Front and Center as I wanted a true power value thru the Red dot lens as well as mirror 1 and 2.
Set to 50% power,
Bench mark read 68W on both power meters.
Now I repeated the test with red dot… Exactly the same, actually read 1/2w higher in the HLP-200, but the bottom line was, the lens was working as I hoped… Success…

This was good to see as I hated the ‘hanging red dot’ indicator off the lens…
Now I had to alight the Red dot, welll after three hours, finally got it to with in 1/2 mm of the pulsed dot test on some birch wood 20% power 30ms pulse. Happy with that for now…

Next I had to install a 4mm air hose to the Red dot unit for cooling, I used a wye adapter off the Monport small air asisst pump and piped it up to the Red dot unit and plugged it in…
I still need to install an inline water filter to help keep the air flow dry which now goes to the nozzle and the Red dot lens.

The next issue was drop the intensity of the red dot, as we all know the dang red dot is bright, so using the power cable in the head that was attached to the original red dot hanging unit, I installed a 250ohm pot on the back side of the laser head for easy access and wired it in series with the 5V going to the New Red dot beam combiner… Had to play with the Resistance values for this unit and found 250ohms worked well to drop the intensisty to about ‘off’.
So now it is nice viewing on the materials, and I can increase it as needed, like on acrylic…
That was a 6hr project but well worth the final outcome.

Next: I had been working on a project for a few weeks.

Two piece 3D printed case for easy access.

This was born from having a loose Y-axis Prox sensor come loose and hear the machine go into the ‘chatter’ fit when trying to home position. ‘yikes’
So I decided to just go whole hog and design a complete information sensor unit and also bring the air assist and current meter into the same unit.
I now have a handy air adjust source right at my reach when needed along with all the basic indicators.
Prox Sensors X Y Z
Key Turn on for laser power, which then Triggers the TEMP light when the chiller water flow is good.
DOOR of course show when the lid is down, OR I have a bypass button I installed on the front of the laser next to the lid prox sensor to leave the lid open during power testing etc…

LAS indicator turns on when the Laser is ON
AIR is the added Air assist I have wye’d into the nozzle from a external air source tha can deliver (set to a max) of 25psi. I usually use 10psi for cutting acrylic to keep the flame up down, but not enough to cool down the cutting … Or ‘damage’ value that Russ likes to use :wink:
I use 20psi for cutting Wood items, found this value give a ‘no corner burn , clean cut’ on most all wood, mostly birch and pine, that I have tried.

Of course I have the Simpson Current Meter for easy viewing when needed.

I still have to hook back up the Ruida control to the Z-axis after I installed my external control unit for the Z-axis making it handy to raise and lower the bed for focus distance when changing materials.

So I have had a few things I’ve played with lately…
one was trying the TIO2 slurry on Tiles, that was intersting…


They came put ok but only after I found IMO the perfect solution, or one of them, to coating the tiles with a consistent layer of the Tio2 slurry…
First: Clean the tile with something the will remove all the finger grease and other grime to allow the slurry to stick to the tile surface.
Next: get a large enough tray to hold the tile FLAT Face down into and still be able to hold and manipulate.
Mix your slurry very well, to get the glue, powder, water mixed as well as possible, there will always be some lumps but that wont be a problem… coming up…
I don’t shake the holding jar, but rather swirl the jar around to mix, shaking makes bubbles… not good.
Pour about 1/4" in the pan after mixing very well.
Take the tile and lower it face down into the pan to completely coat the face of the tile…
Lift it out to inspect the coating, if you see any blotchy areas, you may not have cleaned it good enough, then with a finger gently rub those areas , thus cleaning again, and re-dip until you see a nice even coating… raise the tile out and holding it vertical, allow all the excess slurry to drain off, rotating the tile in 90Deg rotations will help.
The lumps If any will have settled to the bottom of the tray, so when lifting out the tile, just before breaking the surface, move the tile back and forth to dislodge and attached lumps, if any…
Note: this whole process is a pain and messy, OMG messy wear blue surgical gloves and have a dedicated work area tha can get messy… but it is worth it in the end.
Next: stop and set the tile up to dry in an almost vertical positon to continue to flow off excess slurry…
Now be patient and let the tile dry over night, in a dry area, if your garage or work room tends to be cool or have moisture in the air, find someplace else, the goal is to not introduce any room moisture back onto the tile surface. Keep it vertical !!!

Now you should have a nice uniform layer to engrave on.
Some factors that matter in the final quality of the blackness is:
The thickness of the coating will dictate the power level needed:

TIO2 mixture… Document, exaclty how much water, powder,glue you use in the mixture to be consistent from batch to batch, especially the glue, scrap the cup clean :slight_smile:
Also , of course, you will need to experiment with power and speed setting as you would with any engrave process…
Lastly I would add, try not to pour the mixture down the sink drain when washing off the dried coating after the engrave process, as here in Florida we are mostly on Septic systems and the slurry over time will play hell in those systems…
But even keeping the slurry out of your home pipe drains is a good thing.
I Use a bucket outside with a hose to clean the tiles, not sure if the grass likes the slurry but time will tell …
If you try this… Drop a picture of your work, let us see how it went !

Another project, I was making a few items…

DID Puzzle for a friends wife. you can se the 20psi keeps the cut corners clean.

Guitar wall holder, engraved the lightly line cut to give it some outline.

Tea light flameless holder for your side table…

Wall clock 5mm Black acrylic, with a chip board backer…

well I tend to go one and on… so for now thats it…
Hope there is some useful info here for the folks that you have liked !

Possibly more to come on the entire wiring of the control panel system and air hookup…

Chuck

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That is a terrific list of upgrades. I manage a makerspace with two Chinese Co2 machines and they could do wit these tweaks. I may ping you at some point for resource tips.
Thanks for sharing!

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Wow Chuck! - I have been working with Chinese lasers since 2010 or so- like RDworks V5 time - so have accumulated a reasonable degree of “how to” with lasers - helped by learning almost fluent Chinglish!!
But reading about your upgrades makes me just totally envious of your expertise and abilities; and your add ons are a bucket list of what I’d like to do to my own machines.
Many kudos to you sir and please carry on with your enlightening posts, Thanks again
Bill

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Thanks Bill…
Lasers, they are great devices, just sorry I had not gotten into them sooner…
I still have some changes to the interfaces I want to make when I get the time, using opto-couplers.
Working with 5V and 24v in the system tends to be a little messy with the indicator lights, very doable but not clean, from my engineering background anyway…
I will take more pics when I start that project and share here again.

But thanks for the kind words, still running my business at 72, so this gives me more than enough reason to go into work every day and play…

Chuck

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Perhaps my stack light lashup can be a starting point:

Your LEDs (probably) don’t require 50 mA, so the isolators won’t need the boost transistor I stuck on the bottom of the PCB:

Gotta love those visible indicators over the machine!

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Thanks Ed…
I did look at yours a while back… Breifly…
All together simple stuff, but I used an 8v buck off the 24v for the lamps as I changed the resistors in them from 5 v…
and have the board coming in hopefully in another week…
Gonna use the opto to couple the Z-Axis, and OR the signals together so the Ruida has control also as well as my Z controller.

Then just find the time :slight_smile: (OUTTA TIME) it keeps me busy… as you well know :slight_smile:

Made another clock

Acrylic
Back 3mm face White backer 5mm

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Another Clock thought it might look different with a white face…

Another Clock
Still neetf to stain it and add backer…

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:slight_smile:
Bought Some Laser Dark, the kit has three cans, BLACK BROWN CLEAR…
also had some of the Masking Tape low stick.
SO decided to try it out and see how it works…

Not Bad … It darkens pretty well, and the finish coat does a nice job of sealing the surface.

Tried it on the Skeleton !!!
1/8 Birch
1.5" lens
FILL Mode
300sp 30% power (monport 130w Laser)
Etched into the wood almost 1mm depth.
taking the tape off was a pain because of all the little slivers of course…
I did use some regular masking tape, high stick and stuck it to the surface
to pull off the small pieces…it worked some… but mostly had to
pick off with tweezers…

My take on Laser Dark :+1: works good…
Kinda of expensive I think the kit was around $60 with shipping…
But if you are doing ‘batch’ items and need the darker wood look…it works great!
Haven’t tried the Black but I assume it will give the same results, only Black :slight_smile:
Be sure when using the LOW stick mask tape that you press it down VERY well.
this will help when you spray the Laser Dark it won’t bleed under the tape…
Hold the can at least 12 inches to avoid splattering and as you do with any spray paint
start spraying off to the side of your work then bring it into the material.
AND…
Use this stuff outside…OMG it is potent, I did a quick test spray inside and that was
not a good idea…figured, heck a quick spray…cripes… Luckily I have a turbo
fan on the Monport that moves 400cfm and I put the skeleton on the bed very quickly
and that took the smell outside…
But Bottom line I knew better but it was dark out this morning, didn’t want to make the effort to see in the dark…:slight_smile:
Anyway… good product… works well…

Just few more photos …
Lots of projects going, Opening our Custom TIMELESS AMPS store soon,
SOUND CREW STUDIOS store on Reverb.
all vintage handwired guitar amps…
also a few trinkets we will be selling on,our store.
And our Stereo Light Organ , smaller unit 14 bands, there will be a 21 band unit. We are working on our new board design and custom software…
My laser workspace… and a shot of our studio we practice twice a week…
About 7 of us… we are getting set to play for free at Veteran events as many of us are Vets…
Yea… I’m just the drummer…











That looks suspiciously tidy … :broom:

Well done!

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Looks great, so clean and orderly.. a sure sign of a sick mind… :face_with_spiral_eyes:

:smiley_cat:

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HAHA Looks can be deceiving… I can’t find anything lately… :slight_smile:
Thanks :blush:

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