Engraved unpainted travel mug

I have a decent collection of Contigo travel mugs for my wife’s coffee requirements. Half are natural brushed stainless, and the other half… well, they used to have various colors.

The colorful coatings are mostly gone now (dishwashers are harsh, but we’re lazy, heh :sweat_smile:), but I’d like her to still be able to differentiate wake-up coffee from leaving-for-work coffee. I figured I may as well try engraving the plain metal.

I had one damaged one to test with, and a quick coat of citristrip and a 30 minute wait took the remains of the color right off. I played around with it to get the hang of the rotary and my parameters, and once I had something cromulent, I threw a good one on the chuck and did this:

That’s my personal map of the trails on Mount LeConte in the Smokies (GIS data processed in QGIS, labels and decorative elements added in Inkscape).

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That is a great idea for personalized mug!

Glad to know there are other Coffee connoisseurs around

Nice engrave.

So, for Trans-Siberian Orchestra’s winter tour five years ago, there was a fan club exclusive T-shirt design that my wife absolutely loved. It was just light line art on a black background, and to this day it’s the only TSO tour shirt she’s ever wanted. Sadly, the shirt is pretty much worn out by now, but (there’s always a but) earlier this year I was looking around again and found one on eBay in fairly decent condition!

So, having acquired a respectable specimen, I went to work on Project General Tso. Although the design was in reasonably decent condition, trying to do any type of automatic image tracing just wasn’t working (even with ironing and Photoshop and so on). That said, there’s not much you can’t do if you’re willing to put in hours and hours with Bezier splines in Inkscape…

I swapped out the text at the top for the classic Trans-Siberian Orchestra banner (saving a lot of tracing and making it look sweeter), and I dropped the TSO logo on the bottom in the place of the 2019 winter tour text. That all done, the obvious next thing to do was to plop it into LightBurn and throw an hour and 17 minutes worth of photons at a Contigo travel mug:

In order to engrave the mug in one operation, I used this low-profile rotary axis from omtech , a set of 100mm stand off risers from Silent Mfg , and this Cloudray F420/300x300mm lens from Amazon. The lens got me the depth of focus I needed, the stand-offs lifted the entire tower 100mm off the bed, and with the low-profile rotary axis, I could then hold the mug low enough to get everything at the right distance.

Anyway, the travel mug will have to do for this weekend’s TSO concert trip, but now that I have a design all pulled together, I’m going to have to actually get around to pulling out the screen printing setup I have staged for the next phase of the operation, i.e. printing her very own one-of-a-kind not-available-anywhere-ever TSO fan T-shirt. :star_struck:

(Note to self: It might be good to someday make something that you can actually sell instead of just hobby projects for purely personal use. Still, making your wife’s Christmas isn’t a bad thing.)

Fiber laser rated power: 60W
Lens: F420 (300x300mm)
Speed: 50mm/s
Max power: 50%
Frequency: 25kHz
Q-Pulse: 200ns
Line interval: 0.0250 (bi-directional)
Scan angle: 0
Passes: 1

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I suppose I should include a final photo, eh?

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I think that was worth the effort.

I don’t know about you, but your wife sure has good taste in music.
great work there !!!

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BRAVO!!! :heart:

Your wife is a lucky gal.

Added a few more to the set. First one was for our hike and stay at Georgia’s Len Foote Hike Inn. It has the logos pulled as a vector object from their trail map PDF. The trail map in that PDF was an image, so I used QGIS and OpenStreetMap data to render my own trail paths. The PDF also had the elevation profile as a vector, so that’s on the mug, too.


Yesterday, I got her up at a non-restaurant-worker hour in the morning so she could join us in one more volunteer trail maintenance outing and hit 30 hours for the year. (I just passed 100pi, myself, but I’m an outlier.) It seemed like a good enough reason to engrave another mug, so the BREC Conservation logo from our local parks system made it on her morning coffee.

Which brings us to today… This evening, my native home NFL team, the Green Bay Packers, plays hers, the New Orleans Saints (in the dregs of their star-crossed season). Obviously, I hope we win and clinch a playoff spot, and she basically said we may as well, given their season, but that’s no reason not to rock a Saints mug for your day’s coffee.

Naturally, I’ve now been commissioned to make a second Saints mug for her to give her mom for Christmas. Maybe I’ll use the engrave time to brainstorm more designs… Think she wants a Packers mug? :sweat_smile:

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Totally dialled in.

I asked Mom and Dad if they’d like their own. The Brewers apparently were their favorite concept, so a couple of these are now heading up to Wisconsin.

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Good solid marking. Share your parameters?

I’ve been sticking with the ones I’ve dialed in earlier:

I suppose one thing I didn’t include in that is that I focus about 8-ish millimeters above the widest point in the mug (around the baseball in that last one). You want to be at least about that far out of focus with my long lens to get a good black engrave. If you get too close to the actual focus distance, the engrave will get lighter and more… um… engrave-y… instead of just marking. (If you see any “sparking” from the engrave, like you’d see doing a deep engrave on a coin or whatever, you’re too in-focus.) The long focal length of the lens means that the narrower points along the mug engrave just fine, so you’re really just setting the focus point to prevent over-engraving.

As for the rotary setup, I’m using a chuck-style rotary (which, at least in my opinion, is the best approach when faced with a mug with a curving profile like these). I have the circumference set to 240mm, which is approximately the circumference of the aforementioned widest part of the mug. I rounded up ever so slightly to get a nice even number.

If you round the circumference down when entering parameters into the rotary setup, you’re effectively increasing the spacing of your actual lines on the physical object, which could potentially mean you end up with too high an effective line spacing and therefore a worse-looking fill. For an object of varying diameter like this, the narrower parts will necessarily have narrower resulting line spacing due to simple geometry, but at least for this type of marking, it’s not at all an issue, so you design for the maximum, rounded up for convenience. (I’ve drawn a non-engraved box with one dimension the maximum height of my engraving area and the other dimension the rounded-up circumference, and I use that as my reference for layout.)

For the split size, I found 0.050mm, i.e. twice the line interval, gave fine results. Perhaps you could bump that up to three (or more) times the line interval to save some time, but you wouldn’t want to make it something large, say 5mm, as you would end up with prominent gaps/lines at the slice borders.

I actually want to make some designs that happen to have gaps every so many millimeters so I can use a large split size. My working hypothesis is that with creative layout, I could make it so the lines that would result from a larger split size fall in locations where there isn’t anything to engrave, making them a non-issue. For an example of a basic pattern this could potentially work with, think of something like this (where the white is untouched and the dark is marked):

I haven’t tried it yet, so I’m not yet sure exactly how LightBurn’s splitting algorithm works, and I have to grok that so I know how to design the project so I can precisely locate the splits. I’ll test it all out on my collection of empty soda cans, which work great as free test substrates when you’re playing around with a fiber laser rotary.

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Real similar to the settings I use on stainless flasks, except for the rotary specific stuff.
Yes on the defocus, 300x300, and no sparks!
Yes on chuck rotary. I have one I assembled with a 6:1 belt reduction, 38400 steps per 360.
I have been doing tumblers at 400mm/s +/-, going to try one at your speed.
Thanks for the info.

Try Run whole shapes, if your art is broken up into smaller objects.
Each object is its own split. And centered… Another advantage is you can run crosshatch with that setup, don’t need to run parallel to the axis

My chuck rotary’s running at 12800 steps per rotation, so 1/3 of your 38400. I’ve been happy with my results on objects in the range I’ve been working. I can’t get too, too much larger diameter before I run out of swing on the rotary or height on the (extender-mounted) tower, so I think 12.8k will remain peachy for me.

My general thoughts with the concept were to see how time-optimized I would be able to make a full-wrap engrave given fixed engraving settings. Haven’t played with “run whole shapes” yet, but it could certainly be a nice middle ground of process-optimized engraving that falls in the space between simple unoptimized and creative design-optimized concepts.

I believe as long as I’d keep the circumferential dimension of each shape to less than the configured split size, “run whole shapes” would be in play, yes? Distortion shouldn’t be too much an issue with reasonable split sizes, I figure, although with a substrate as interestingly curved as a Contigo travel mug, I might lean more toward “organic” shapes vs. strictly “geometric” patterns so the distortions from the engrave and the shape itself don’t stand out to me.

(Incidentally, so far the mugs have been holding up to use, hiking trips, and the dishwasher quite well.)

Run whole shapes ignores split settings.
It centers each object and creates a split that large. If there is another object 2 degrees off and above or below, new split. I have a feature suggestion asking for cylinder correction to be able to run concurrent with rotary so the objects don’t stretch.
I have a video of running whole objects but working right now, ill get it off my computer tonight and post.
Its pretty cool how it works.

https://firearm-videos.sixguns.com/channel/Albroswift/video/30/run-whole-shapes

This is the suggestion, yes? (Added my vote.)

The video gave a nice overview of how it works. I’ll definitely be playing with it.

Yep, that’s it. Thanks for voting. Thought I started that one, memory going bad I guess.
The run whole shapes IF POSSIBLE the if possible is totally up to the user. As an experiment I created an object that was wider then the diameter, and it ran it. Right off both sides. I did some other experimenting, the side to side margins start to get wonky with much more then 5 or 10% of the diameter, unless you correct for them ahead of time. Even without cylinder correction, not that difficult to shrink the widths, a little bit of calculation and you can get pretty close.