Grbl plasma table

Hi guys. New to the form and first time plasma table builder…

Having a problem with the plasma cutter causing the controller to poop itself. I’ve shielded the controller with foil tape. Have ferrite filters on the trigger wire from the relay and on the USB cable, I’ve even tried to isolate the power supply to work off of my camping trailers solar system but all still the same. Any thoughts would be great.

Also have an issue with the hard limits but would like to sort out the plasma cutter first.

How far apart are the wall outlets for the plasma cutter and the control board?

It seems that even small exhaust fans and compressors can inject noise through the typical control board ‘brick’ power supply and crash the controller. I haven’t put an oscilloscope on it yet to verify but here’s a quick test.

Grab a long extension cord, plug the control board brick into one end, and plug the other end into a wall outlet far from the plasma cutter. This can attenuate the EM noise from the plasma cutter and reduce the Noise injected into the power supply.

Hi John. Thanks for coming back to me.

I’ve had the controller plugged into my camper solar system and had the same results Also just tried the car battery test as well to eliminate the brick with no luck. I’ve everything earthed as well.:pensive:


I have opto isolators on my inputs. Not a plasma machine.
What plasma cutter are you using?

It’s a topshark ts-c40d

The trigger is connected via a relay for the different voltage.

Suspect this is not cnc compatible plasma cutter.

Most likely not. It’s just an el cheapo Amazon job.

Was just thinking, it still has the eu 2 prong plug on it so it’s not earthed… Might be something there.

What kind of actual controller hardware are you using?

Can you provide a link?


That’s a pretty tough environment for computers/controllers, in general.

If power is ok, then maybe a steel box (Faraday cage) for the controller… that would only leave external wiring as a way in…


What exactly are the results of the failure… error message - reboot ???

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You’ve probably already watched this. Filtering your inputs is key to making things work.
Does your relay have a diode built in?

It’s a grbl base controller that came with the CNC kit that I built this from. I’ve covered the box with foil tape hoping for the same affect.


No error message. Just drops USB connection.

Maybe try an SSR instead of a conventional relay (if you use one, I didn’t see it in the pictures). Might help to reduce noise.

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That’s a pretty standard 328p type controller… Is there some reason the power to it is unplugged?


Some more details might help…

Is it consistent when it fails… such as when the machine starts or when it creates the plasma arc.

You have a very low cost controller, lots of antennas to it and a large machine that produces a spark gap transmission…

I think you might be stuck on isolating each component until you find the issue.

Might be able to isolate the motor driver circuits and external sensors and see it it stays running when it would normally fail. If you follow me…?

BTW spark gap transmitters have been internationally banned since 1934… :grimacing:

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Was heading out the door when I took that pic and had it on a battery to test. Everything is fine with the plasma cutter is off but when triggered it’s like the controller reboots. Looking into the ssr’s. Might be just the sudden hit with power from the trigger wire that’s pushing the em burst.

Oh man building into an IBC tote is genius! I need to build my water table out.

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Have the full build of it on my YT channel… https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1HIJa6YTLy_BbFJ_VaN-KoXQ3HaI3Obr&si=anP_pWGBrsQlTUVZ

Is the ground of the plasma table in anyway connected to grounds on anything electronic? It could be motors, end stop switches, pcbs etc! The table mesh bed and the plasma unit should be well earthed. As previously mentioned the plasma will be very electrically noisy and dumping a lot of it probably to earth. If you could move the electronics as far away as possible and cover all motor and end stop cables with a screen like a foil and maybe insulate the motor mounts and shafts. Tricky

Going to try changing the plug on the plasma as it’s only on a 2 pin eu plug and pick up a SSR relay. Motors are mounted to polycarbonate parts. Have the controller mounted to a piece of MDF and the pox it’s in is foil taped.

I assume triggered means it’s generating plasma?

I can also assume it moves the head and works until it needs plasma?

Make sure of what you are switching with the ssr. These usually switch during a zero voltage level. If you are switching dc, it won’t switch to an open state.

I’m just suggesting you need to know what you are switching to use one of the ssr modules.

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So when it has to fire the plasma it trips the controller.


Was unable to get the SSR locally but got one of these. Still better then a automotive relay…

As for what I’m switching. I’m using the relay instead of the finger trigger on the torch.