Reducing X and Y axis belt drive backlash on HTD 3M belts

Hi forum, I wanted to share my experience, hoping it might help others who are dealing with similar challenges.

When I received my new Monport 90W 700x500 CO2 laser, I was quite disappointed with the accuracy of the X and Y axes. The X axis was slightly better than the Y axis, but I eventually realized this might be due to the larger pulley on the transmission belt drive.

After contacting the Monport support team, who were very responsive and did their best to assist remotely, I tried adjusting the belt tension and backlash settings in Ruida. Unfortunately, there was no significant improvement. I then replaced the transmission belts with new HTD 3M belts, thinking the original ones might be of poor quality, but the new belts didn’t fix the issue either.

The offset I was dealing with was quite frustrating. It’s worth noting that the Y axis behaved very differently depending on whether it traveled to the cutting position from the back of the laser or the front.

After closely examining the old belts and comparing them to the new ones, I found that the belt profile didn’t fit the HTD pulleys very well. You can see that the area between the teeth is already slightly shiny from the aluminum of the pulley, but the teeth themselves remain black.

I was searching for belt profiles with better accuracy than HTD profiles and discovered that RPP belts are designed to work on HTD pulleys while providing a better fit, less backlash, and reduced noise (ringing).

Here is an example of how these different belts fit the pulley.

I’d definitely recommend switching to those RPP Megadyne belts on the transmission between stepper and axis belt drive if you’re dealing with backlash issues that can’t be fixed by simply adding more tension (which isn’t ideal anyway).

Here’s the final result at a cutting speed of 100mm/s. I believe the remaining backlash is caused by the long belts which still are HTD belts, but it’s a level I can live with - especially at these speeds.

Best regards, Richard

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Something like that happened to NEJE a while ago:

We may have mixed MXL synchronous pulleys in some batches of products. […] 2GT synchronous pulleys have round teeth, while MXL synchronous pulleys have square teeth.

I’m sure it seemed like a Good Idea™ at the time. :frowning:

Somehow similar, I agree. But MXL and GT have a different pitch.

In my case, everything is HTD 3 - so 3mm pitch. But HTD is basically designed for what the name describes ‘High Torque Drive’… not for high precision. Especially when it comes to changed directions during movement and positionioning, HTD is not the ideal choice.

The RPP (Reinforced Parabolic Profile) was developed to distribute the load more euqal over the tooth. The slightly different shape of the paraboic teeth reduces the clearance and therefore reduces backlash. I personally think that it also reduced the ringing you can see sometimes when I do bigger engravings (somehow comparable to the ringing you could see on 3D printed parts when something on the belt drive is not right).

Your setup seems like Monport specified completely wrong components, while somebody at NEJE just ordered a pallet of the wrong pulleys.

As the saying goes, “Just a typo that could happen to anybody.”

Thanks for reporting your findings, because nobody else will ever dig that deeply into the mess.

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