ULS is an American brand, but pricey like Epilog. If it was me looking for a laser, I would go with a high end Chinese laser like the Thunder Laser. They are excellent machines, and fully supported by U.S. sales and service techs. Can I ask why it must be U.S. made? Is it because of service concerns?
No it’s just I want to support American workers not China workers as we are hurting, I’m doing handyman work because I got laid off and can’t find a job like millions of other Americans
I’m just trying to be patriotic and support fellow Americans
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That is understandable. I don’t know where to direct you other than Epilog and ULS, and they are both very spendy. I guess you can sort of support U.S. workers with Boss or Thunder as they have U.S. sales and support staff, but I know that is not ideal. I don’t have an issue with Chinese machines being from Canada, as we have no laser manufacturers that I could support. 
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Ya good point, thanks man greatly appreciate it, anything else I should consider, I initially was looking to spend around $6k but not sure if I should just wait and save up a bit more or not 
The Thunder Laser Nova 24 60W laser fits right into that budget. (or very close to at $6600) and comes with everything required to use, delivered to your door for that price.
It would be my choice at your budget. Great thing about that machine is that it is delivered with literally everything you need to get started, and they even ship some basic spare parts and tools as part of the package. Tech support is awesome, I have seen them helping customers at 1 am on a Sunday night even.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that the Thunder Lasers come with a 2 year warranty standard, Boss is only 1 year.
Hmm that doesn’t sound bad at all!! They basically did the same thing as Boss laser? And when I say basically did the same is that they did all the engineering and just told China what they wanted and quality ect, am I understanding correct?
As far as I know yes. And if you compare apples to apples, the Thunder Laser comes out cheaper than an equivalent Boss machine. (Full disclosure, no I don’t work for Thunder, but I do manufacture their high resolution laser head accessory)
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Ok cool, ya I just talked to Grant and your right besides the rotary axis being more expensive thunder laser does work out cheaper, because they don’t charge tax or shipping which would have be another $1,200. Where as I believe Boss charges shipping and I think tax not sure positively on tax, at any rate I would have paid around $7 grand for the Boss laser and ya it would of had a second lens and rotary axis but it wouldn’t have servo motors or table size and it would have cost a extra $1,500 for the proper chiller. Which thunder laser comes standard with
So really I would spend closer to $8 grand for Boss laser to compete with thunder laser, if I’m adding up every thing correct?
You definitely got my interest, do you got by any chance pictures of work done on a 60 Watt?
We recently purchased a large BossLaser and I was hoping to do some 3D engraving on a larger scale than our smaller Universal laser. I was saddened to find out after talking to a rep at BossLaser that you can NOT do 3D engraving on their machines. It has something to do with the type of Co2 tube they use. Now that could of just applied to our specific machine, but I was thinking he meant in general across all their machines. Definitely call and ask before you purchase a BossLaser for that use.
Ya, thunder laser can do 2.5D laser engravings, up to 4 mm deep, very sharp and detailed. Check out their videos of a few of the things that they did.
50W is the lowest I think. Select 60W or 100W if you have enough budget. My 100W machine was purchased from 2.5D 3D Relief Deep Laser Engraving Machine China Manufacturer & Supplier. Working great now.