Orientation of rulers

I know this , but calling it a ruler was a lot shorter :wink: … and apparently you still know what I was talking about , right ? :wink:

I get the whole Idea , but for a Belgian -used to reading left to right, top to bottom- the chinese oriented system wich is based on reading right to left , top to bottom isn’t logical to work with.

Also it makes it quite difficult to orient workpieces if they have to go in a second time.

But , as I stated before , it’s nothing critical … I can work perfectly as-is … it would just made life a little bit easier :slight_smile:

thnx anyway on your input though

Yeah, totally get what you are talking about.
Don’t understand why it’s “difficult to orient workpieces if they have to go in a second time.” though… why not just always orient them at the origin of your machine?

If I uses the machine on it’s defaults , everything gets cut or engraved mirrorred … f######ng chinese logic I guess ? :slight_smile:

If it’s mirrored, that would mean that your origin in LightBurn does not match the actual origin of the machine. As long as those match, you will be fine.
Is the origin of your machine not top/back, right as shown in your screenshot?

yes , it is back/top right it’s native origin, and via the settings in lightburn I was able to swap this to top/back left. The fact that is was working mirrorred had nothing to do with Lightburn’s settings , as it was even so with the default software (and there orientation/origin was not changable) … and it even happened if I wanted to engrave an image straight from usb… I even went so far as to check the wireing to see if they hadn’t switched some wires during assembly. A friend of mine bought a similar machine from another chinese vendor : same issue. It’s there for we went to look for other software and stubled on Lightburn where we at least could change this

Oh weird. But yeah, LightBurn must match the machine even if the machine has a weird origin placement :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve actually never seen a chinese laser with an origin like that. Mine is back, left - and I think the K40 is front-left like a CNC machine.

Most Ruida based machines that I have seen default to the back right for machine origin.

nope, in my K40 is home top / left … there are many options :wink:

Well, some of them home to top/left but the actual origin is front left. Homing location doesn’t need to be the origin.

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Dude, I’m a Belgian ,… we’re specialised in ‘Weird’ lol … what else to expect from a country with only 10mil inhabitants but need 5 complete governments … well … ‘need’ … we don’t need them, but they all think they’re important anyway :wink:

It changes the origin. Whether your machine has estops in that position is a different issue. Mine does.

The ruler follows the origin. 0,0 is where it is, the ruler counts from there to the extent of the axis.

Most Chinese machines are set up to home right-rear. most US/Euro left-rear.

I forgive you for the Square in Brugge on an august afternoon, the Trappist monasteries, the beer sellers with 500+ varieties to choose from, the forests of the Ardenne, the beaches of Ostend, Spa, mussels and chips, polite drivers, wonderful roads… but not for Brussels. You can keep Brussels :wink:

And an hour or more of exploring every possible configuration of a Ruida controller to somehow maintain Right Rear homing and reverse the X axis coordinates resulted in two outcomes:

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@ Tom Vervynckt

I had exactly the same issue, and raised the same request for an enhancement to Lightburn but was rejected. I suspect the issue isn’t obvious to understand unless you face it.

My Redsail/topwisdom used Autolaser. This oriented the rule correctly (0,0 on the top left of the page).
For some reason Lightburn seems unable to do this.

Right now, I have to place my work items on the laser in a top left (so it’s close to the exhaust, and just my preference) but the working coordinates are X700, Y0. This is REALLY annoying when you measure the material to cut (e.g 100mm) and have to subtract this from the 700 when look at the screen when making sure it will fit.

Surely this can be fixed in software!?! It’s my only grump with Lightburn.

I considered moving the homing switches to the other side and changing the controller settings but that’s not easy either.

@Oz can we request this to be looked at again? Not sure if I articulated the issue well enough previously.

Andrew

So you’re asking me to rewrite a large chunk of how the software handles coordinate systems because you prefer loading your material on the left, as opposed to the right? Does that sum it up? Is there a reason it can’t simply be loaded to the right?

I’m just not seeing an issue large enough to warrant the amount of work and potential bugs I know this will create.

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Apologies Oz, and didn’t intent to cause a stir.
In my (simple and probably wrong) assumption was to be able to have the x scale/ruler drawn in reverse.
Everything else would be perfect as it is. I could see the object on the screen and easily see how wide it is against the ruler and use that to check my material size.

I’ll have another think on moving the limit switches. The left side is preferable as it’s the shortest distance to extract any smoke

Very much appreciate your most excellent software!

It wouldn’t be impossible to do, it’s just a decent amount of work and has the potential to create other problems, and I have to weigh that against the amount of benefit we get from doing the work, and how much benefit we simultaneously lose by not using that time to do something potentially more impactful.

It’s also worth noting that if I did alter the display, the numbers shown on the controller screen itself would no longer match what was shown in LightBurn, so if you ever use the coordinates on the controller display for anything and try to match them with the software, it wouldn’t work.

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Brugge’s beautifull all year long, but we have so many more nice places to visit , and not just in the afternoon :wink: … Well, 500+ beers is a small shop , last I heard -with al the private breweries popping up everywhere, we’re now close to 3000 brands of beer … and I’m probably the only one who doesn’t like it (except maybe Kriek-Lambic Beer from Liefmans, but that’s more a fruit-lemonade than that it tastes like beer) … Beach-wise I prefer to go just across the border with Holland : Cadzand-Bad, Vlissingen etc… people are much friendlier there then in Belgium, more open… and dogs are allowed on the Beach as in Belgium there are even some communities where you"re not only not allowed on the beach but even forbidden to come to ajacent streets! … Spa … the city ? the concept? the water to drink or the health-institutes there ? Polite drivers : not too many of those here in Antwerp where I live… and being a separatist : I don’t want Brussels (of the Walloon for that matter) … I prefer to give them to France and have Flanders join Holland … only problem is : France is not interested in the Walloon … nobody is … they’re a moneytrap and have serious attitude probs :wink:

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