Having done customer support in this field for the last 5 years… i would love to agree with you. Which I do on principle - people SHOULD research, regardless of budget
However, my experience tells me, research comes 3 hours after the "BUY now " button is pressed if at all
And xtool machines are not - for a big majority of people - on a level that makes people research first, buy later.
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I wholeheartedly agree, but there’s a snowballs chance in hell that they would even consider doing something like that.
Because:
That’s absolutely true.
Regardless of the manufacturer as @gilaraujo there mentioned.
Very true.
And then there’s users like me who are somewhat familiar with CAD/CAM software and traditional CNC machines like routers, milling machines, lathes etc. and of course G-code to control them, and assume that the (diode)laser-head is just another toolhead.
And for a reason or another want to buy a complete ready-for-action machine, not to build it from ground up.
Automatically we probably also think that since the base CNC technology is decades old, and GRBL has been the way to control the movements in hobby scale machines for a while as well, how hard could it be to just switch the proverbial toolheads?
Should actually be a lot easier to make a laser X-Y table since there’s no tool forces or spindle inertias to care about.
No manufacturer surely wouldn’t intentionally deviate from those standards either, because it makes zero sense businesswise.
So even if we do our research, we most likely won’t -and I sure didn’t- dig deep enough to find out that xTool decided to do just that 
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I for one also assumed that since nowadays it’s difficult or downright impossible to make money out of manufacturer supplied software, and because i was planning to use CAD software to design whatever I wanted to burn and use XCS (or another manufacturer supplied software, had I chosen a different manufacturer) just to generate the G-code, I looked LB as an fallback alternative (a software that I would’ve had to pay for, for the first time in decades) I could give it a try if the supplied software would fail to deliver somehow (and it sure did).
In the end LB saved the day, and even though I probably will continue to use it primarlily to generate G-code from CAD designs and most likely use ~1% of its design features, I for one wouldn’t dream of using anything else.
But, it’s nice to know that the features are there should i ever need them, there’s continuing developement even for the xTool machines, and the support is superb.
Regards,
Sam
@LSS Sam, I think this thread alone is helping many new laser friends make the “right” decision on which machine to buy. That in itself and the certainty that at one point or another the sales numbers of laser machines from the respective manufacturers will be able to reflect whether they are LightBurn ready or not, is a step in the right direction.
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I think you are under estimating the number of
It is quite possible.
We have plans to address vendor compatibility claims that will come to fruition this year.
Lightburn has the quality and size to make this decision, congratulations. 
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I sure do hope so.
Venlig hilsen to You as well 
As for the subject of information, I do however also somewhat agree with @gilaraujo with his statement:
Perhaps my research wasn’t as through as it should have been and certainly not as thorough that I thought it was, but ~1,5 years ago there wasn’t a single Google hit to this great forum.
Just passing comments on the reviews that LB is an alternative to the software the manufacturers supply with their products.
And certainly not a hint about xTools and XCS’s pequliarities.
That’s IMO because Google hasn’t been a search engine for a long time, it’s an advertizing and marketing platform where companies can up their visibility by paying more.
I do not know whether those companies can also pay to give the sites/forums with negative comments about their products or services a lower priority, but i wouldn’t be surprized one bit if they can.
Providing that they have a powerful enough computer to run it 
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Haven’t tried the new version, but at least 1,5 years ago the requirements were IMO insane for what the sowtware is and what it can do.
I don’t remember the requirements exactly, but something along the lines of:
Minimum: i5 6800 16Mb
Recommended i7 13200 32Mb.
And those requirements were revealed only after I created an account to their site.
And even then it took quite some digging.
I do understand that most of us probably have the latest computing power available for any number of reasons, but I also think think that’s not the case for everyone.
Sure wasn’t for me .
And I also do believe that many of us want to dedicate some older computer solely for lasering -again for any number of reasons- and that isn’t necessarily possible with XCS.
Especially if that computer has to preferably be a laptop.
LB however seems to run on almost any “modern” computer, yet another great reason to choose LB.
Regards,
Sam
this is for sure a problem and a concern
i was for the most part talking in low level, generalities about the habits of people.
Granted there are plenty of exceptions to this rule
I also feel Lightburn is introduced to people when they pass that threshold where what they use is no longer good
I always do the silly analogy ,“is like going from Ms Paint to Photoshop”!
Which is true in terms of tool available, but also complexity.
Now hopefully this conversation will become mute in a few months when Lightburn and Xtool do a group hug and all is fully compatible.
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IMO it sure is.
Repurposing or reusing older computers is something that makes a huge difference in all sorts of fields.
There is, and nowadays ones ability to filter the information plays a huge role in that as well.
Not silly at all, especially as the basic XCS looks suspiciously like … older MS Paint
To me anyway.
I do hope so as well, that would free a lot of LB developement resources towards more meaningful areas, and IMO be hugely beneficial for Makerspace/xTool as well.
Regards,
Sam
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